28.2.10

RodneyTentakle Page 2 Peek-sees

Apologies for the lack of updates, it certainly wasn't for lack of drawing. I've got quite a few sketches and doodlings to upload but I'm just not in the mood to scan 'em all in right now.

Even more important, seeing as I have all the relevant drawing materials again, my work on Rodney Tentakle is back in full swing again. I've got three more pages to get penciled but before I do that I want to get the rest of the pages inked, just to get them out of the way.

Here's page 2 of the comic. Enjoy!

Update:

Alright then. Fellow Oirish artist, Declan Shalvey made a very good crit with regards to my seeming obsession with using line fills (especially noticeable in the first, third and final panels of the above page). I had a bad feeling at the time when putting them in that it was the wrong thing to do but, going against my better judgment, I stuck 'em in anyways. Dec's crit was just further proof that I should have stuck to my guns.

Still, with the help of technology (and a fair helping of patience) I should be able to sort out the situation fairly easily. For example:

Kind of crude, but with a bit of cleaning up it'll do the trick.

22 comments:

Declan Shalvey said...

Hey John,

Brilliant page man. I do have one crit though; i don't think the line-filled foreground-object effect really works. Y'know, the one you use in the 1st and final panel? I think it flattens the image, where otherwise there's a lot of life and character.

Personally, and feel free to ignore me, i think you could do with dropping that lined effect completely. I see it in the bricks and in the background in some places. I see what you're trying to do, but i think you can achieve that much better in colour.

Again, just my opinion. I really do love this page though.

NHOJ said...

Howdy Dec,

Cheers man, especially for taking the time to give a crit.

Yeah, I was kind of unsure about those line fills after I had done them and I'm thinking of editing them out once I get around to colouring this up. How do you feel about the use of the lines in the background of panel 3?

I have a bad habit of feeling the need to fill in as much as I can, otherwise a piece feels unfinished to me. This can lead to a lot of mishaps. I'm beginning to reel myself back, however.

This comic has been a great exercise so far though as it's forcing me to draw a lot of stuff I normally wouldn't.

NHOJ said...

Oh, wait, you already answered that question. Never mind!

Declan Shalvey said...

Hey man.

Yeah, i spotted it in panel 3 and thought the same thing; you don't need it. Whatever you're aiming for i think will be far more successful in colour.

Honestly; i think it makes your pages look amateurish. Just those lines, i mean. They bring down all the great drawing you're doing otherwise. So (for me at least), you're doing something that you don't need and is making the pages look less professional. I wasn't gonna suggest you removing them, but if it's something you've considered? Then yeah, i reckon you should do it. Sounds to me like you had a gut reaction *not* to use them. Trust yer gut man; i've been doing that a lot of late and it seems to be working out for me.

Declan Shalvey said...

PS. Hope i don't sound like an egotistical prick here, i'm just trying to help, honest.

NHOJ said...

Not at all, Dec, I appreciate a good, honest crit. I need to learn from my mistakes and it's nice to have someone there to give me a kick up the arse!

Yeah, I did have that gut feeling not to use those lines when I had the preliminary inks down but I have a very bad habit of not going for what just 'feels' right. As I said before, I've got this bad habit of thinking I need to fill in every nook and cranny of a panel in order for it to feel 'complete.'

I'm fond of telling others that 'less is more,' I really should take that old adage to heart.

Declan Shalvey said...

Go with that gut feeling man. Every time i've had it and gone with it i've gotten great resuts. The couple of times i've had it and ignored it, i've always regretted it.

You're dead right; less IS more, but it's always easier to say that to someone else than it is to apply it to your own work.

In case i haven't said, i *love* the stuff you've been doing of late. Can't wait to see yours and Dave's finished project.

Declan Shalvey said...

Heh, this is turning into a post where i'm just giving you crap!

Just saw that rough re-edit. That works *much* better man. With that open area you have somewhere for your eye to relax. It balances out all the detail in the rest of the panel. Nice work!

NHOJ said...

Well, keep on giving me crap, Dec. If it means I learn a few things, I'm all for it.

Cheers again for the crit, stuff like that is what makes having an internet connection worthwhile.

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